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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 08, 2015 6:45 am

Nice one Steve, a great addition….
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Oct 23, 2015 9:19 am

Just picked up the limited edition 'Colenso Letters from Natal'. Looking forward to reading it
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 24, 2015 12:02 pm

Nice edition Frank. Well done. Auction?
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Yes not to bad at 30GBP
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyThu Oct 29, 2015 10:54 pm

Frank are the letters from Bishop Colenso, or the Colenso family as a whole.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Oct 30, 2015 5:07 am

They are a series of letters spanning 1865 to 1893 from Francis, the Bishops wife, to Lady Mary Lyell and Katherine Lyell. Just general everyday life sort of letters until it gets towards 1878 then there is more detail. Nothing earth shattering just sets the tempo of the era really.

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Cheers Frank.
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Every Boys Annual 1884. Contains a series of prints of VC winners.

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Privates Williams and Hook
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Hi Steve
Nice get , thanks for the pics .
Cheers 90th You need to study mo
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyTue Nov 03, 2015 7:56 pm

Nice pictures,

I notice that Lt Col TS Seccombe was quite an accomplished artist, I have just been looking at some of the other military subjects that he covered, absolutely brilliant. Surprised
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PostSubject: Query on HCMDB   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 12, 2015 12:14 am

Gentlemen,
Greetings, having read the forum on and off for the past few years I've decided to take the plunge and  join, especially to see the photos/attachments etc which I could not see before.
Knowing the depth of expertise in the forum I'll just post a simple question so I dont appear too much out of my depth!
Is there anywhere in the forum where you have a critique of Col Snook's HCMDB? (not a review) ie. I have read snippets where some disagree with his conclusions on certain things e.g. G Coy being wiped out on the firing line and would like to see the debate.
I ask this because, due to personal cicumstances, the majority of my library is in storage and the only books I have are both Col Snooks books, FWD Jackson Hill of the Sphinx, England's Sons & Vol 1+2 of Sudies in the Zulu war by Julian Whybra, and Black Soldiers of the Queen PS Thompson.
Incidently Vol 3 of Studies in the Zulu war has been mentioned, any time frame?
Hopefully the books I've ordered (due in part, to positive comments on here) should arrive soon to stave off the boredom. i.e Isandlwana & Rope of Sand  by J Laband, Dead was everything,  K Smith, and Historical Records of the 24th to name a few.
Hope to enjoy a productive time on here, many thanks Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 12, 2015 6:01 am

Greetings Bill and welcome.
Yes there is a critique of HCMDB from its first publication. I made some comments at the time and im pretty sure 90th also did.
Your book collections seems pretty rounded, enjoy Rope of Sand its one of my favourite books.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 13, 2015 9:24 pm

Not sure whether this is the correct place for this comment, but I came across the Web Site for the London Gazette where much can be found and downloaded as PDF's and all for free.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/24695/page/2199. Please note that the link I have provided goes straight to Article 24680 (which I found most informative indeed but you must form your own opinion)
Although not one of the usual sort of "books" for reference, it may still be of interest to some to download and possibly print as you wish.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 13, 2015 9:28 pm

Arthur the link posted takes me to "The page you are looking for can't be found"?
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 13, 2015 9:38 pm

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/24695/page/2199

Apologies for that, Dave. Not sure why that should happen. Anyhow, I have just checked this in my browser and it worked. If it doesn't work again, please send me an e-mail to arthurw@live.co.za and I'll e-mail it to you. However, I'll also check the link from this post once this is posted.

Please let me know if it works as it worked from my end.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 8:14 am

Ive been looking for this for quite some time.

The journals of Elizabeth Lees Price. 1854 -1883. Its a collection of letters a number of which comment on the war and are as seen from close up.

Arrived this morning.
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That's quite scarce Frank so a good buy. More new shelves required shortly!

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PostSubject: Adding to the library    Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 11:52 am

Well done Frank , you had better keep that powder dry ! LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 11:56 am

The sods have taken my prime target of the auction, Cornelius Vijn 1st ed, three to go.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 12:58 pm

Frank,

Not sure if this is something you are interested in.

Abe books (UK) CETSHWAYO'S DUTCHMAN - FIRST EDITION £90

Vijn, Cornelius
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 1:06 pm

Waterloo thankyou, I shall look at it, generally the 1st editions ABE sell are from 1988 printing. Im looking for the original 1886 I believe.
I will check

Frank
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 1:13 pm

The Abe version is the soft cover, 1880 second print. There are a couple of the hardcovers around Maggs has one at GBP 450 ( beyond my reach) There was one on e bay couple of months back but I missed it for US80, not in the best of condition but it was the same one put up for auction on the antiquarian site and that the one I was hopeful of getting. Im going to try and follow back for the dealer of e bay, UK based im sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 1:29 pm

Frank
Here is an ex-library hard back at a reasonable price.
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=5743271070&searchurl=kn=cetshwayo%27s%20dutchman&sortby=0&n=100121503
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 1:39 pm

Thanks Steve I will enquire.

Cheers
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Did anybody manage to get hold of a copy of this by Ken Gillings? First I have heard of it and now seems to have disappeared.
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PostSubject: Adding to the library    Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 11:40 pm

Hi Steve
I first heard of it this morning , I'm certainly looking into getting one ! .
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 21, 2015 5:37 am

Ive got it on order. Its a similar Then and Now approach as the Lloyd/Ratray. Looking forward to comparing it with my original road to Ulundi.
Cost by the way from 30 degree south is R1250

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Me to Frank , me to ! Very Happy You need to study mo You need to study mo
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Thanks boys. I will join you in the quest.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2015 2:56 pm

I recently found this book whilst browsing. It's a real snip at $4.500

Sam Alexander ''Photographic scenery of South Africa', SCARCE 1880 ALBUM OF PHOTOGRAPHIC SCENERY OF SOUTH AFRICA, WITH 100 VINTAGE COLLOTYPE PRINTS OF CAPE TOWN, DIAMOND MINES, BATTLE SCENES FROM THE ZULU WAR AND PORTRAITS OF TRIBAL PEOPLES.

First edition of this handsome 1880 photographic album, published by subscription only, containing 100 vintage collotype prints of colonial South Africa, each measuring 4 by 5-1/2 inches, captioned and mounted on heavy gilt-edged stock, with mounted collotype portrait of British colonial leader Sir Henry Bartle Edward Frere on the title page, richly bound in original morocco gilt

Battle scenes from the Zulu War?

http://www.baumanrarebooks.com/rare-books/alexander-sam/photographic-scenery-of-south-africa/69889.aspx
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2015 3:19 pm

Waterloo
Interesting I wonder what Battle scenes is refered to?
JY any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2015 3:28 pm

Harold Raugh lists it as having scenes associated with the AZW - Isandhlwana, Rorkes Drift , Fort Pearson etc. Which sounds like the usual stuff. At $4,500 definitely a Las Vegas price!
This one is a little better.
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=4319739662&searchurl=n=100121503&bi=0&ds=30&bx=off&sortby=17&kn=photographic%20scenery%20of%20south%20africa&recentlyadded=all
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2015 4:43 pm

Frank,

Rorke's Drift; Isandlwana & Fort Pearson are included.

They are not true photographs rather they worked-up photographic prints.

The Rhodes Museum up the road from me has a copy, in my opinion it isn't worth the price quoted.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 23, 2015 6:30 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 28, 2015 10:45 am

My copy of 'Road to Ulundi' has just arrived. Had a glance through it rather quickly and then stopped and got totally involved for an hour.
I have to admit when I ordered I was a bit concerned, Kens last books photo repro was pretty ordinary so there was a bit of trepidation.
All un justified gentlemen. The repro by Pinetown Press is first class the photos are clear and very well done, the comparisons to Crealocks paintings are virtually exact and the write up and descriptions are excellent.
Steve and Gary you have a pleasure waiting for you.

Ken well done mate an excellent publication and a nice signed first edition for the collection. A few of the photos bring back memories of traipsing through the backwaters a few years ago.

Cheers

PS excellent value for money.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 01, 2015 8:32 am

New addition, The Last Zulu Warrior. David Clammer picked it up at a flea market on the weekend for an absolute gift. I even had the cheek to bargain with the seller. Eventual price R100 around GBP5 And its still got its slip cover.
Just love a bargain.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 01, 2015 9:20 am

I have struggled to find the Road to ulundi - where did you order it from Frank?
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 01, 2015 10:35 am

Sergio I got it from 30 degrees South.
www.30degreessouth.co.za/
Well worth the money, around GBP60

Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 01, 2015 10:59 am

Sergio,

With shipping it works out to about +/- £80 from the publisher.

Whereas casementpublishing.co.uk are selling it at £70.

It is on my Christmas list.

John Y.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 01, 2015 11:20 am

thanks guys - I shall add it to my list as well
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyTue Dec 01, 2015 11:24 am

http://www.casematepublishing.co.uk/index.php/distributed-publishers/30-degrees-south-publishers/the-road-to-ulundi-revisited-hb.html

here is the link for any uk buyers
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 04, 2015 1:40 pm

This is a very good price if you are in UK. Excellent book.

http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=17739902134&searchurl=kn%3Dzulu%26sortby%3D0

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 04, 2015 2:07 pm

I agree , I think it normally retails at £100. Its a beautifully crafted book.
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PostSubject: Adding to the library    Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptySat Dec 05, 2015 3:58 am

Agreed , its a wonderful book . It's heavy , so it was expensive for me , but I got it at a reasonable price Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: DP&G   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 18, 2015 5:54 pm

Just to say that I have just received Durnford's "A Soldiers Life" and Keith Smith's "Select Documents" from the above publisher following Frederic's advice. The first is otherwise only available as an original at an astronomical price, and the second is simply not available anywhere. Both are beautifully produced in hardback.  Thanks very much Frederic!

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 18, 2015 6:52 pm

Bonjour STEVE
Happy to help but it's Gary Who gave me thé name of thé publisher.
Good studying camarade

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PostSubject: Adding to the library    Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 18, 2015 9:36 pm

Bojour Frederic
Merci mon ami ! . It's an excellent company isn't it ? . Merry Christmas


Steve
I've posted the Link to DP & G Publishing several times on the forum and a couple of times to others via the pm facility , I cant believe I hadn't sent it to you ! . I've been shopping there for years , did he send you a list of their Zulu Publications that are available ? , I know he is reproducing several more papers & Booklets at sometime in 2016 ! You need to study mo You need to study mo You need to study mo . I'm off to the Market to pick up some more Prints I had framed during the week , will drop off 5 more !! . They also have a list of over 200 Negatives of photographs from Soldiers , officers , camps etc taken during the AZW , I have over the years purchased basically all of them , he sells the reprints for about 2 quid a pop ! , many of which I haven't seen in books etc . You'll find they are an excellent company to do with .
Cheers Steve Merry Christmas

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptySun Dec 20, 2015 12:34 am

Have to concur with the above about DP&G publishing. Just received Select Documents & Stalkers Natal Carbineers direct from the makers since they were out of print. Had in the same order Cetshwayo's Dutchman, Running the Gauntlet, and A Soldiers Life so they very kindly sent a free copy of Studies in the Zulu War (1st edition). Highly recommended company.
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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyFri Dec 25, 2015 1:02 pm

This is sure to be over subscribed..i believe there
are not many left.

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PostSubject: Re: Adding to the Library   Adding to the Library - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 07, 2016 12:16 pm

First acquisition for 2016, two original Boer War maps by the Field Intelligence Department Cape Town. Richard Feetham was with the Inns of Court Rifles and later became Town Clerk of Jo'burg and legal adviser to the British High Commissioner. A little after our war but large scale military maps of the area are pretty scarce.

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